Sister Michelle
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Post by Sister Michelle on Dec 4, 2006 12:02:24 GMT -5
We all need to keep our selves spiritualy fit. One book that helps with this is Created to Be His Helpmeet. this is by Debbie Pearl. It is one of the greates books I have ever read. You can get it online from. www.nogreaterjoy.org
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Post by jka on Dec 12, 2006 22:19:46 GMT -5
Ugh. I want to fit in on here but wow so many people advocate Debi Pearl's book. Her and her husband believe in sinless perfection. I just am not sure that I really want someone that teaches that strongly to be someone who's book I read.
Katy-Anne
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Brother Brown
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Post by Brother Brown on Dec 13, 2006 9:56:10 GMT -5
Dear Katy-Anne,
The reason we advocate the Pearls is for this topic. The problem with many Christians is we forget to "Eat the meat, and spit out the bones." The Pearls, from what I have read of them are right in this area of submission. We don't expect everyone to agree on everything, however, this forum is not for debating anything outside of the realm of doctrines given by God to women. Titus 2:3-5 "The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed." If you would like to discuss other Bible doctrines, please, discuss them at home, with your own husband. If he would like to discuss them with me or some other Godly men, please, inform him of Papa's place, where men discuss other doctrinal issues. I apologize if this sounds harsh, but I have seen other "Good" boards go "Bad", when they get out of the Godly, Biblical pattern for learning the Scriptures. God bless you and your husband, as you seek to do His will!
In Christian love, Brother Brown
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Post by jka on Dec 14, 2006 12:19:29 GMT -5
Are you saying that women aren't to be concerned with doctrine? My husband prefers to talk to godly men he knows such as our pastors. He doesn't mind me reading stuff online about doctrinal stuff. I always talk to him about it anyway. Independent Baptist are good at the phrase "chew on the meat and throw away the bones" up until the time that they read something by someone that likes CCM. Then they won't read his stuff. But if someone is off doctrinally they'll still read them. Weird but happens.
Katy-Anne
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Brother Brown
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Post by Brother Brown on Dec 14, 2006 14:43:32 GMT -5
No, dear Sister, you should be concerned about doctrine. But the context of this forum is specifically dedicated to helping ladies within the context of the doctrines given to women. If your husband allows you to research other doctrines on the Web, that is fine. Each home is to be independent, under the leadership of the husband. The Bible very clearly states: 1Corinthians 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
I understand that this forum is not a Church, but we will continue to keep the topics here within the bounds of "Keeper Sisters." Titus 2:4-5 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
I do not want to have any part of blapheming the Word of God. So, we will stay within these boundaries, set out by God, within this forum. Michelle and I love, and pray for the ladies on this forum, and we will continue to strive to help. We are not here to replace the local Church, or your husbands. We are here to be an encouragement to you all. Thank you for your cooperation.
In Christ, Brother Brown
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Post by jka on Dec 14, 2006 15:17:00 GMT -5
Ok thanks for clearing that up.
Katy-Anne
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Post by countrycamogirl on Apr 9, 2007 9:50:58 GMT -5
I've read this book. There are a few parts in it that i can't actually believe she said because i don't think she should talk like that, but all in all it's pretty good.
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Post by juanitalynn on Apr 9, 2007 20:24:00 GMT -5
I've read this book. There are a few parts in it that i can't actually believe she said because i don't think she should talk like that, but all in all it's pretty good. What parts can't you believe? I really like this book. Debi Pearl has a good way of explaining things. There child training material is also very good. But they do believe in sinless perfection, which is not right. I have seen alot of churches and Pastors that are so right on so many biblical doctrine, but wrong in one main area. Just as long as we are not going on just what Debi Pearls saids, but what the bible teaches. And the majority of what she teaches is biblical (concerning this particular book).
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Post by countrycamogirl on Apr 11, 2007 14:16:15 GMT -5
Page 163 with her dialouge of adam and eve, the last line that she has adam saying, doesn't sound right to me.
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Sister Michelle
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Post by Sister Michelle on Apr 11, 2007 14:25:32 GMT -5
Could you please write it out. My copy is still in a box somewhere.
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Post by countrycamogirl on Apr 11, 2007 19:19:18 GMT -5
i dont really want to. it's not something i would say to anyone.
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Bridgette
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Post by Bridgette on Apr 12, 2007 6:35:46 GMT -5
i don't own the book, but borrowed and read it. there were several things i couldn't agree with in there and i'm betting one of them is along the lines of what counrtycamogirl said. that said, there were many good things about the book as well.
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Post by juanitalynn on Apr 12, 2007 13:39:19 GMT -5
I have to disagree with you about the part about Adam saying "Take your clothes off real slow so I can watch." Before their sin in the garden, they didn't have any cloths. And they were married so there was no sin in asking her to do this. As a married couple you have no control of your own body.
Paul said in I Corinthians 7:3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
The world has our view of sex so warp, we think it's a bad thing for married people. It's not. God himself created it. We are supposed to please our husbands. And if they enjoy you undressing in front of them, you should do it. Were commanded to do it. Jesus said in John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. And that's a commandment.
You should read the Song of Solomon in it's literal context. Solomon & the Shulamite girl speak in the same manner to each other, and God inspired this book to show that this is OK for married couples. It goes in to detail of there love making. And that's not just guessing what they are saying and doing, but it's God written. ;D
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Sister Michelle
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Post by Sister Michelle on Apr 12, 2007 13:51:35 GMT -5
I will have to agree with the last post. We as christians are giving up on s*x as something dirty and not to be talked of. I have counciled with ladies whose husbands are in to porn and one factor is lack of affection from their wives. S*x was made by God to be enjoyed. His first command to Adam and Eve was be fruitful and multiply. That required s*x. It is a picture of Christ and the church and if we let the world take that beautiful picture and make it into something dirty I think we are sinning. Look at Sarah's response when the Lord said she would bear a child. She asked if she was to have pleasure with Abraham. She did not look at as something dirty or to be endured but as a way to bring pleasure to her spouse. As to the book I have found no problems with it and it will be supported on this forum.
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Post by countrycamogirl on Apr 13, 2007 9:02:22 GMT -5
I don't think anyone said not to support it. I also said i liked it except for those parts, it's just not the way my husband and i act. He's not that type of person that would say that.
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